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Published on January 29, 2006 By JillUser In Misc

I have two young, very imaginative boys so one method of recycling in my home is giving them stuff to "create" with.  Creamer bottles, milk cartons, oatmeal containers, they all can become very cool space ships!  They use things in ways no adult would ever imagine.  It is fascinating to watch and great exercise for their brains.

We have a great recycling store in Ann Arbor called the Scrapbox.  People and businesses can donate materials and then you can come in, purchase a paper bag and fill it with treasures for only $2.  The last $2 I spent there provided my sons with months worth of creating.  There are factory reject parts, parachute scraps, scraps from paper, plastic and foam products.  All sorts of goodies that send the imagination soaring.  Luckily our elementary school has been taking advantage of this wonderful resource.

We also have curbside recycling.  I do as much of this as possible but get discouraged sometimes because I have caught the garbage guys just dumping the recyclables into the compactor rather than leaving it for the recycling truck.  I keep trying though and have made a couple of calls to the waste management center.

I recall my most discouraging experience with recycling.  I was in high school and our french club was trying to raise money for a trip to Quebec.  Our teacher was an extreme tree hugger (I don't mean anything negative by that.  She was a very wonderful person) who lived in a barn and ate only vegan food unless it was brownies   Well, she had the admirable idea to collect newspaper to take to the recycling center.  Unfortunately she didn't do her homework on how much we would get paid and it turned out that 4 van loads (which was equivalent to an entire weekend of driving all over northern MI) only got us about $10.  We spent way more than that on gas alone!

I don't composte though which is something we did growing up.  But I grew up in farm country and now live in suburbia.  I think farmers are probably the experts on recycling.  Farmers and people who lived during the depression.  My grandma reuses and saves everything.  She even washes and reuses sandwich bags!  She has a lot of time on her hands though

It is hard to believe what a disposable society we have now.  There is disposable everything now.  I even heard they came up with a disposable cell phone!


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on Jan 29, 2006
It costs more to recycle things than to either compost them or landfill them. And, landfill doesn't really take up that much room or do that much damage to the earth. Comparatively, I mean. I've read that 85% of pollution is caused by energy consumption. And that makes sense to me. Recycling uses LOTS Of energy.

I like the premise behind recycling, however. I can't imagine anyone who doesn't. But the fact is that recycling is more damaging to the environment than landfilling.
on Jan 29, 2006
I would love to have one of those recycling stores near us. What a great idea. I do use the curbside recycle containers too.
on Jan 29, 2006
While I agree with Marcie on the whole "recycling" farce, that store sounds like a great idea. In the whole "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" Reuse seems to be the most effective (since there is only so much a person can realistically "reduce" and the jury is out on recycling after a few decades of deliberation).

Great to hear that someone has brought the marketplace into making a difference. I hope they do well with it. I'm also glad your kids have plenty of opportunity to let their imaginations go wild!
on Jan 29, 2006

But the fact is that recycling is more damaging to the environment than landfilling.
That depends on how far you have to transport stuff to a landfill and how closely the waste management departments are watching what is put in the ground.  One great thing that my community does for recycling is a Hazardous waste round up.  It is only once a year but people here really do take advantage of it.  We save up paint, oil, batteries, aerosol containers, etc. and a group of hazardous waster pros volunteer their time in properly disposing of and recycling the materials.

Like ParaTed pointed out, reusing is an important aspect of recycling.  Do art teachers use egg cartons to hold paints anymore?  They did back when I was in school (long ago ).  My older son's class made adorable Easter bunnies out of bleach containers last year and this Christmas the boys and I made cute snowmen out of creamer bottles and scraps of lace, felt and buttons.  Other kids made gingerbread houses with paper milk or juice cartons as the base.

My grandma takes reusing to a whole new level.  She once weaved these awesome baskets out of strips of paper bags.  She never throws cards away and cuts the pictures or phrases out of them and uses them as gift tags or tree ornaments.  She was so used to having absolutely nothing growing up in the depression that she sees a million uses for everything.  Oh, and she can make a mean casserole out of anything too

on Jan 30, 2006
We take our newspaper and boxes to the recycling bins. On base, I always recycled and got to where I would feel guilty if I threw something away. When we moved here they don't have curbside recycling but they have two drop offs in town.

I used to be horrible about saving everything for crafts projects, egg cartons, paper towel tubes, meat trays, everything and it just got to be too much clutter so now I only save things if I have a specific project in mind.

BTW, we made the cutest planters out of old juicy juice bottles. You lay the bottle on its site. We cut a hole in top, poked holes in the bottom for drainage. We made is a Petunia pig planter. The cap is just like a pig nose. Add wiggly eyes, egg carton ears and a pipe cleaner for a tail. Too cute. I think we'll make them again this year.

My grandma is also a queen saver. She saves every mayonaise jar, margarine tub etc. Everything is saved and nothing is thrown away. It's a whole different mind set than we have. I guess we just always know that we can get more and they didn't always have that security.
on Jan 30, 2006
She saves every mayonaise jar, margarine tub etc


Margarine tubs are the original disposable tupperware. I still reuse mine. Mayo jars are great for bug collecting!

I guess we just always know that we can get more and they didn't always have that security.


Maybe we should be a little less secure about that.
on Jan 30, 2006

It costs more to recycle things than to either compost them or landfill them. And, landfill doesn't really take up that much room or do that much damage to the earth.

Have you ever lived by a landfill?  Ever think about how much land needs to be taken up to just store garbage?  If recycling is worse than landfills, why do most of the states find it so important to have recycling fees on plastic, glass and cans that you buy carbonated beverages in (and some states, all types of those containers?)  Do you know how many trees are needed to make paper, or how much petroleum is needed to make a plastic bottle?  How about how much energy is needed to make a glass bottle versus recycling one?  You don't worry at all about depleting the earths resources of petroleum or wasting resources on planting new trees just to cut down later?

Here is a statistic for you: It takes about as much energy to bury a ton of plastic in a landfill as is stored in 4.67 gallons of gasoline. Recycling a ton of plastic saves about as much energy as is stored in 197 gallons of gasoline.  Do you still think throwing it away is better?  What about the fact that recycling always uses less energy than making a new version, so there is less pollution caused by using a recycled bottle versus a new one?

Obviously, I recycle.  We throw out about 1/2 bag of garbage every two weeks.  We reuse what we can, recycle what we can't use, and compost food wastes to use in our garden.

on Jan 30, 2006
I recycle. At home it's easy, we just have separate trash cans. But at work, we didn't have a recycling program, so I looked in to it and started separating out the stuff in our office. The bad part is I have to take it down to the loading dock on my own (the cleaning crew deals with the "regular" trash)--but at least it gets done, right?

Growing up we always had a compost pile, but it's sort of hard to have one on the 8th floor of my city apartment building. I also remember that in elementary school we had a separate bin for the "food" leftovers from lunch. The bin was taken down the road to a local farm and fed to the pigs. What horrible diets those pigs were on!!
on Jan 30, 2006
Obviously, I recycle. We throw out about 1/2 bag of garbage every two weeks.


I don't think I can aspire to that no matter how much recycling I do!

Shades, I think you starting a recycling program at work is outstanding!
on Jan 30, 2006
Shades, I think you starting a recycling program at work is outstanding!


Re-reading that, I may have made it sound bigger than it is. Recycling "program" might be a stretch--there are only 3 of us in the company! I simply put out boxes to collect things. We print out loads of stuff (drafts, legislation, the what not) and I was hoarding old drafts of a report because I didn't want to throw away all that white paper. I had already cut up enough into scrap paper, so my only alternative was to find a way to recycle it. (Made me feel better about what a paper waster I am!).
on Jan 30, 2006
(Made me feel better about what a paper waster I am!).


It all adds up. Heck, just using paper again as scrap paper is still recycling it. Waste not want not, right?
on Jan 30, 2006
We throw out about 1/2 bag of garbage every two weeks.


Yikes. We have a full trash bag nearly every day!

Jill: That store sounds SOOO cool! I wish we had something like that around here.
on Jan 31, 2006

We have a full trash bag nearly every day!

I'd have to say "YIKES" to that!  What do you throw away?  Is there any way to reuse or recycle what you are dumping? 

I read somewhere that the average family of four should be able to recycle or reuse enough "throw away" materials to reduce their waste to one 55 gal bag per week.  Of course, with that, you can't buy a bunch of pre-packaged food, and you have to eat your left overs instead of letting them go bad in the fridge and tossing them.

We don't have curbside recycling, so we have one bin inside that we put all our recycles in, then separate them out into bins in our garage.  Once the ones in the garage are full, we take them to be recycled.  We only have to go about once a month to take them, so it's really not that much effort.

on Jan 31, 2006
I read somewhere that the average family of four should be able to recycle or reuse enough "throw away" materials to reduce their waste to one 55 gal bag per week.


That's about right for us for the majority of the time. I usually don't even bother with a trash can at the curb (they just end up in the street anyway). Most our neighbors end up with several big trash cans full at the curb every week and few recycle even though we have curbside recycling and are provided with the recycling bin.
on Jan 31, 2006
We always do. Out of necessity.
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